Sunday Spin – Growing Up

Welcome to Sunday Spin where I talk about life beyond writing.

My daughter is 9 1/2 years old. She still believes in Santa Claus, fairies, and magic. She still plays with her Disney princess dolls and dresses up. I love this part of life, the innocence and purity and seeing the world through a child’s eyes.

When she asks about where babies come from, I’m honest–kinda. I don’t use the famed Stork story, but I haven’t told her about the birds and the bees either. She is satisfied to know that God blesses a woman with a baby, tucking it away in the mommy’s tummy to keep it safe and warm and protected until it’s time to greet the bigger world.

I realize this limited version is not going to satiate her curiosity much longer. The last thing I want is for her to hear the truth from a peer, which is how one of my friend’s daughters learned the truth about babies. That 10-year-old girl is so horrified, so traumatized, she refused to discuss the subject when her mother did sit down with her.

This is what I’m afraid of:

I’m afraid of losing my little girl.

I’m afraid that the minute she knows the truth about puberty and sex, that she’ll pack up all the make-believe.

I’m afraid she’ll discover the real Santa.

I’m afraid she’ll stop peering in tree crevices in hopes of spying a fairy.

I’m afraid she’ll stop playing with her little brother who is 7 and dotes on her.

I’m afraid she won’t want to snuggle with me during movie night.

Maybe I’m being melodramatic–I am a writer after all. Still, I must face the music and sit her down and tell her what she has to look forward to while still encouraging her to remain true to her spirit. To continue embracing the parts of life that make her sing out loud to her stuffed animals.

What about you? How have you handled your child’s looming maturity? Any suggestions on how to broach the subject?

79 thoughts on “Sunday Spin – Growing Up

  1. Ooh, you’ve just given me an idea for a future post! I shall credit you appropriately when I come to write it ;)

    When I was a kid, 9 years old in fact, I was bought the book ‘Where Did I Come From?’ by Peter Mayle, don’t know if you know it but I just checked on Amazon and it still seems to be available. It covers the subject in a silly fun way with funny cartoon illustrations. I think that making it silly and fun is perhaps a good way to go because it’s less likely to be traumatic! It does cover the necessary facts in a straight to the point way but without making it sound scary. It’s a good one to read with them and then leave it with them to re-read at their leisure! I kept re-reading my copy for years, I think I was also the one to teach some of my friends the facts by showing them that book.

    I was going to try and get it for my daughter, but she found out the details from a friend before I had the chance, luckily it didn’t seem to traumatise her. She in turn told her younger brother (so keep in mind that possibility too!).

    • I will definitely look into that book. It sounds perfect. The idea of fun and silly is right up our alley, and might be just enough to keep her from letting go of her ‘make believe spirit’ too soon.

      Ugh, sorry to hear that your kids found out before you could tell them. Was that terribly disappointing for you? Or did you feel like you were kind of let off the hook?

      • It’s funny really because there wasn’t one moment that I can pinpoint, I gradually became aware that she and her younger brother knew because of certain giggly comments they made when there was a reference to something on TV or whatever. When I asked her about it, she was very matter-of-fact, like “Oh yes, everyone knows about it at school”, and she said that she knew she perhaps shouldn’t have told her brother yet but that he didn’t seem shocked or anything. So it was all fairly uneventful! Now that she’s 13, she occasionally asks me questions that I don’t want to post on here (!) like “What is X?” things she’s heard at school, and I try and answer them in a matter-of-fact way for her, but sometimes I don’t even know what they are!

      • Well, I’m glad that it all went so smoothly. My friend and her daughter don’t touch that subject at all, and my friend is sad about it. Hopefully her daughter will come around and go to her for answers and advice.

        Haha, oh yes, the terminology has changed quite a bit over the years. I’m with you. I wouldn’t know how to answer some questions that arise either!

  2. Don’t worry about losing your daughter, my son is 14 and we are closer than ever, if that is at all possible. She will still want to cuddle up and watch a movie with you, all that happens is she will become a great companion as well as your daughter; it gets better and we become even closer to them. I think we have to remember also that we don’t have to give children the full story immediately, it just becomes confusing. I think that initially she just needs to know that babies are made when a lady and a man love each other. Just give a bit at a time and when she wants a bit more she will ask for it. Too much, too soon, simply confuses. Great post.

    • Oh noooo! I can see how your Mom would be furious, that’s a terrible blow. But I guess that is a reasonable way a kid will find out–unless the parents get so tired of putting on the show that they decide it’s time to break the news. Or the kids just figure it out on their own…I don’t think there was a specific incident when I found out. I just kind of gradually stopped believing. Oh good, I’m glad you still snuggle with your mom. I love stuff like that!

  3. I don’t remember ever really having a talk with my daughter, she loved wildlife programmes so life and death was something she was always aware of and we discussed everything more or less from her starting school we would discuss what she believed and what others believed and she took the facts on gradually as if she had gained the knowledge on her own

    • Hi Paula, yes, my kids watch wildlife programs too and have to cover their eyes when a kill is made. So do I. Gradually giving facts sounds like a good idea, too, and goes along with looney’s point about not overwhelming them with too much info. Thanks for stopping by!

  4. I understand your trepidation but don’t worry, your daughter will still snuggle with you. Do not delay though. Other kids will tell her stuff that is awful and wrong, so she needs to be armed with the truth. If you are leery of bringing up the topic, the American Girl company has some nice books about the care and keeping of a young woman’s body that give some information without going overboard. My two girls (now 16 and 19) got a lot from those books. My big girl is all grown up but she still looks for fairies in the shadows and believes in the spirit of Santa.

    • I appreciate the info about American Girl Company. I will definitely look into their books. SHe enjoys the stories and the games and the dolls, so that will be a great avenue to follow.

      Oh, I’m glad to know that your oldest still keeps that spirit within her. I guess I see and hear too many of the disappointing stories related to growing up that makes me more nervous than I should be. Thanks for your advice!

  5. I guess I’m rather the opposite. I doled out development- appropriate puberty books from a young age. I wanted my kids to have the facts early on so that they wouldn’t have misconceptions or hang-ups about it later on. And although my youngest knows about the birds and the bees, he’s still a pre-puberbtal kid enjoying everything there is to being a kid. :)

    • See, that’s what I should have done, handed out books that handled that subject. Although I have used the correct terminology to describe body parts instead of using nicknames. I simply have not gotten into the mechanics of the parts. :) Now, part of this too is that my kids haven’t really asked detailed questions.

      I’m glad to hear your take on it. There are a lot of 8/9 year olds in our school/town who are already wearing high heels and makeup. I look at those little girls and I feel sad for them, because they are missing out on childhood (in my opinion). It makes me wonder just how much they are really exposed to at home and it’s frightening to me.

      • I’ve seen those little girls. Scary, isn’t it?

        I went through that “Where Did I Come From?” book with both of my boys. I can’t remember what age–maybe 9? (I went on Amazon and searched through puberty books to find ones I could introduce at various ages.) Thereafter, I gave them books on the subject to read, holding onto the more “advanced” ones for the teenage years. In fact, my youngest (he’s 12) still has one waiting for him when he turns 13 or 14. He’s so thrilled. ;) But I found after our initial discussion, they would rather read on the topic than have their mom tell them about it–but I’m there for them if they have questions. Of course, this is interspersed with regular updates about the harm of alcohol, drugs, tobacco, etc. I’m sure they get sick of it, but kids start young these days, and studies have shown that frequent readdressing of the topics by parents as well as a parent’s obvious disapproval makes kids less inclined to do these things.

        But you’ve still got some time with your daughter. And like I said, even though my 12-year-old son knows about the birds and the bees, he’s still all little boy. :)

      • Okay, that book sounds like a good suggestion. I’ll look it up. As far as alcohol, drugs talk–we’ve been down that road already. Mainly because the kids see other kids smoking and have questions. That could be why my kids don’t quite have the questions yet, because they’re not as exposed to it. Even the movies we choose to watch are pretty tame.

        I will start right away. Thanks!

  6. I love the silly wonderful picture book, “Mummy Laid an Egg.” I got it in England when I was there on a trip. But don’t confuse a child’s innocence with knowledge of the natural world and the birds and the bees. Unless you look at sex as something dirty, it can be merely a greater understanding of the wonder of the world. My kids are 18 and 22, and we still snuggle and smile at each other when an adorable baby goes by, and marvel in the magic of the the world. I love Paula’s comment about nature videos. We watched those, and the kids understood mating as a natural process and a beautiful thing. My kids built fairy houses all over the backyard. They figured out for themselves at a very early age that there was no Santa Claus, and so there was no great disillusionment. You sound like you have a great kid, and a wonderful relationship with her. Just keep being a good mommy and all will be well.

    • Thanks for the tip on the book. I will add it to the list. :) I guess I see kids all around where we live who are wearing makeup and high heels at the age of 8/9 and I’m agawk. A part of me worries that things are moving too fast for some kids, or that the parents are mishandling information, and I want to tread carefully.

      Nature videos are a great way to talk about mating, you’re right. We do watch a lot of Animal Planet, and even though my kids haven’t asked about the mating rituals, I can initiate the conversation.

      Thanks, she is a great kid and we have loads of fun. Thanks for the encouragement! :)

  7. My daughter is 9 1/2, too! I know what you mean… but I have an 11 1/2 year old son, too, so The Talk has already been handled, long ago (with him). He still asks me plenty of very specific questions, and I try to be as honest and straightforward as I possibly can be.

    My daughter recently asked me straight out about sex, and because it was a not appropriate time to talk about it (like out at the mall or in front of other people or something), I managed to put it off a little longer. ; )

    My son is very scientific and wants to know the specific details… my daughter is more fairies and wonderland and writer-y (like me)… but when my kids ask me something straightforward, I want to be the kind of mom they can trust to give them the whole truth. And I think our attitude as parents affects the entire rest of their lives and how they think about sex! No pressure. ; )

    • Hi Anne, Yes, I agree with you. I want to be the straightforward mom also, so this is good to hear how other people handle the “talk”. We didn’t really talk about sex in my house when I was a kid, so I definitely was raised to not be open about it. But because I resented that, I’ve been almost waiting for this day. I don’t want my kids to be the last ones to know, but I don’t want to overwhelm them either.
      Thanks for your advice!

  8. It’s interesting, the notion we have in our culture that sexuality and innocence are opposed to each other, and that learning about sexuality for a child represents a loss of innocence. I wonder if it stems from the feeling many people have that sexuality is dirty or wrong, and that’s why finding out about it “taints” the child. Anyway, thank you for sharing this story and I appreciate that it’s a difficult choice.

    • Hi Chris, I must admit to being guilty on thinking a loss of innocence is connected to growing up. Not entirely mind you, but on some level I do think it happens.

      I grew up in a house where sexuality was not dealt with in a straightforward way, and I remember resenting that later. Not that anyone thought it was dirty or wrong, it was just never a big deal I guess. So, I do want to make sure my kids aren’t the last of their kids to know. :) I did ask some parents of my daughter’s friends, and most of them have not broached the subject yet. So, I still have some time to sit down and chat with her. Thanks for your thoughts.

  9. I tend to think that sooner is better than waiting for a friend or the school system to educate children. I do not have children so I cannot speak from any experience other than my own childhood. The education will come one way or another. But I do feel that a girl should hear it from or with her parents help (E.g. books listed above) before someone else gives her information without the support of her family.

    I do believe in Santa even though the Easter Bunny told me otherwise. :-)

    • Yes, I don’t like the idea of friends teaching my kids the ways of the world! I like the idea of the books and videos and have already begun my search for them.

      Yes, seems like the Easter Bunny doesn’t like getting upstaged. He told me the same thing.

  10. It’s really interesting to read these more personal notes. I’m not a father and I’m still young (22) so I’m not even sure if I’m qualified to comment on this but I found out about most of these things myself when I was around 9. It’s also around that time we start having sex ed in Sweden.
    I still haven’t had the talk with my parents. It all seemed very natural to me and there was never any need for them to explain anything. If you’re worried you might as well sit down and talk to your daughter but you might as well leave it be until she asks you about it. And of course it must be scary to have your daughter grow up and realize the world is not a magical world full of fantasy – but it’s even more important to let her face the truth and treat her as someone who has in fact grown up. When I see my mother (which is not often) she still treats me like I was 14, probably because I moved to my own apartment when I was 15, and it is annoying. It’s been a lot better this last year but it’s frustrating to have your parents not acknowledging your change in character, intellect, and mind.

    • I think the fact you’re 22 you have a more current insight than I do, so your opinion matters greatly to me, Fredrik. That’s the hard part, not having parents who are willing to talk about it. My situation was similar, and I learned more from the schoolyard than home, so that may be why I’m a little anxious about this.

      You make a great point, and one I need to keep in mind. “That it’s frustrating to have your parents not acknowledging your change in character, intellect, and mind.” I have to make sure that my own fears don’t get in the way of her growing up. Thanks.

  11. Lovely post, today Kate. Kids grow up so fast don’t they? I once read a novel where a mom did not give the entire talk at once but she doled it out in small age appropriate fragments along the way. I seem to agree with that kind of approach as well.

    Of course, it depends on the children and their individual personality types. Sounds like you have a great daughter and you guys have a close relationship. ;-)

  12. I believed in all that stuff way longer than my peers as well. I’ll admit, I was on the naive side; my mom never gave me the birds and bees talks and I figured out things along the way from things peers said or read to me from romance novels in junior high. When something would gross me out, I’d plug my ear and sing Lalala until they stopped bugging me. I don’t know what to tell you. Some kids are just born believers. I was depressed when my mom took me aside and told me that Santa Claus was her and Dad. I wanted to believe and was quite irked that she spoiled it for me. My boy was the same way. Even after we told him about Santa Claus, he kept acting like he believed. It’s more fun that way. I’d broach it as questions for her. I never believed that I should lie to my children, so when they asked about Santa (whether they were 6 or 11), I answered truthfully, and then spun it that they could create magic for smaller kids by pretending that it was all real.

    • Oh my gosh, I can feel your sadness regarding Santa Claus. I really do think there is a shift that happens, whether or not it’s readily noticeable. Growing up does mean having to let go of some points of childhood, and it’s a painful process for some people depending on their circumstances.

      But yes, part of the magic of make believe is to be “in on” the secret. And that’s one of the fun things adults get to do. :)

      • Yes, it is fun in a different way as an adult…but nothing beats the magic of ‘truly’ believing as a child. I could make myself believe I saw his sleigh flying through the sky in Vegas as we drove home from Grandma’s on Christmas Eve; I once believed I saw an elf sprint off my bed and out of the room, leaving a candy cane in his wake on my bed. It was soooo real to me.

      • Oh absolutely. This is one of the reasons I love having kids, so that I can be a kid again too, and build fairy houses and fill stockings and dress up. I sometimes get so caught up in it all, that even as an adult, I do wonder, what if it isn’t pretend after all. :)

  13. My daughter is 32 and we still snuggle together on the lounge and watch movies together. You never lose you’re little girl – she’ll always be your baby with her own magical world no matter what age :D

  14. My younger daughter was 12 and still believed in Santa Claus. I was really afraid her peers would tease her about it, But I was too chicken to tell her myself, so I asked my older daughter (14) to do it. I felt like such a horrible mother!

    • My niece was 12 when she started suspecting the truth. Kudos to my brother, a single dad, who pulled it off for many years.

      That’s very funny that you had your other daughter rat out Santa Claus. :) I can imagine you felt horrible, but it really does make for a good giggle.

  15. First, this is a really lovely post, Kate. I enjoy seeing what real writers do in their “day” lives. :)

    I don’t think you need worry over losing the closeness you have with your daughter, or with her losing a touch of her innocence. She won’t always believe in faeries the way she does right now, of course (shaved tree trunks will do that). But if she believes in magic now, she probably won’t ever completely stop believing in magic. Because there is magic in the “real world,” you know: the magic of baking Christmas cookies with family, of making sense of a quadratic equation for the first time, of falling in love again after you’ve had your heart broken, of seeing Mom or Dad weep quiet, happy tears when they give you away at the altar, and feeling those same kinds of joyous tears when you look into your own daughter’s face for the first time.

    I can speak only on what I’ve read of your adventures with your daughter (and the rest of the family), but you’ve got a strong foundation for togetherness. That’s a fine, silver thread: it gets stretched and kinked, sure. But it’s very, very difficult to break.

    Your daughter will come and talk to you when she’s ready, especially about a topic like sex. (Which can be weird for a lot of parents and children to discuss; I know.) It’s not something to be forced. And she very likely might go to a friend first. Unfortunately, that’s not something you can control. I think the important part is that she feels safe being able to come to you with those and other kinds of questions.

    Apologies on waxing rhapsodic, here. :) And sorry that I have no concrete answers to offer. But each child – each person – is unique, and there’s no way to guess what one will do versus any other. But, then, that’s part of what makes it so exciting. :)

    Good luck!

    • Thanks, Mayumi–for such a thoughtful, helpful post that you had to write twice! :) I appreciate being reminded that all children are unique and that I’ll be able to know what’s best when the time is right. This is good for me to hear, because while I don’t want to push her before she’s ready, I also don’t want her to be the last to know. Knowing that I have some time on my side helps.

      I’ve started preparing my arsenal of books and videos, so that when we do have the chat I have lots of back up!

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  17. My kids are teenagers now, but I remember giving them the info a little bit at a time–depending on their questions and MY comfort level. :) I so get what you’re saying about wanting to keep your little girl, your little girl. It’s not easy. I miss my little kids, but thankfully the transitions are slow. I still get those “mommy” moments, not as often but I treasure each one! :)

    • I love hearing that you get where I’m coming from. That really makes me feel better.

      The transitions are slow, and it helps to take each day, each moment for the special time it is.

      Yes, MY comfort level is severely lacking. I didn’t get “the talk” when I was a kid, so I have no idea how to be cool about it or what’s inappropriate for a 9 year old to know. However, everyone here has given me lots of great ideas and encouragement. I feel much better since posting this. Thank you. :)

  18. Oh, it’s a sticky road to travel, I know! My 9 year old daughter’s still got a darling and true innocence about her and is just beginning to ask all of those questions with her eyebrow raised just a little bit…if you have any tips, please do a blog post…I’ll be first online to take a gander :)

    • You’re on! Actually, the comments on this post have really helped turn my feet in the right direction. I feel a lot better and more confident about what I should say. I will definitely be arming myself with lots of books! :)

  19. Yes, you are a creative and clever writer. And you are a mother who loves her little girl very much (mother’s do that I’ve heard). And you were once a little girl yourself. Put the three together and I’m betting you’ll do and say the things that work perfectly for you, for her and for your family. (All the ideas by your other friends here are also great to consider!)

  20. The precious innocence of them. I love it. I think boys are a little different in that area, so my son hasn’t asked where babies come from, but he is very interested in the body and how it works and what it does.
    I answer the questions from a medical point of view and when he asks about sex and babies I think I will answer it in the same way.

    • That’s a good way of handling it, too. Keeping it clinical might stave off the “ick” factor which is what my friend’s daughter is experiencing. I can’t imagine what she was told, but she is grossed out. ;) Thanks for commenting.

  21. Pregnancy is a pretty magical thing if you explain it from that perspective. It’s also incredibly gross and freaky–if you explain it from that perspective. I think it’s good that you are thinking about this and figuring out how to talk to her about it. :) Good luck!

  22. Thankfully, the birds and the bees talk seems a long way off for me, although I am looking forward to when my little boy starts believing in Santa Claus (he’ll be 2 this Christmas, so it’ll probably not be until the year after), and the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy!

    • Oh, I probably have as much fun with Santa/Bunny/Tooth Fairy as the kids do. That’s part of why I find it a little bit difficult to broach the subject of growing up. But as others have said, growing up doesn’t necessarily mean turning our backs completely on the magic of childhood. That’s a relief. :)

  23. My husband recently had to talk to my eleven year old son about sexual predators as a requirement to enter the boy scouts. I think getting a dose of reality changed and scared my son a little. It’s a shame that we need to force our kids to grow up too fast

    I still believe in Santa

  24. All you can do is answer questions as honestly as possible with as much information as you think she will understand. Someone told my daughter the facts of life at school and a) she didn’t believe them and b) she thought it was a bit revolting, but we worked through it.
    They grow up fast these days and it is hard to know what to say when. I’d stick with the magical and be aware that even if you tell her the real facts, she may not take it in if she’s not ready.
    My son asked at 4 what made thunder.
    I explained to the best of my non-scientific ability, sticking with truth at all times theory, exactly what I thought happened.
    After playschool, he came home and told me I had it all wrong. Gregory’s mummy knew the answer. God was up there banging a drum.

    • Hi Pat,

      Oh my goodness, I love that tale about your son and what makes thunder. That’s classic–and a great example of what we leave to chance if we don’t take the initiative. Although the thunder story is harmless and super cute. :) The birds and the bees can be a little revolting if told the wrong way.

      Thanks so much for stopping by and taking the time to comment!

  25. I have a 17-month-old son. My wife and I love watching him play and explore the world around him. We’re touched by how utterly innocent he is. He knows nothing of heartbreak and disappointment. He’s not jaded or cynical. He’s a happy kid who smiles a lot. The thought of him discovering what a cold, hard place the world can be scares us.

    • Hi Simon,
      Oh boy, that’s a great age. I know what you mean exactly by seeing your son in all his innocence and purity and joy.

      I remember when a little girl shunned my daughter at the playground. Maddy was 3-ish. The look on her face broke my heart. Even then I knew I was going to have trouble seeing them handle the “darker” side of life.

      Thanks for swinging by.

  26. Wonderful blog post. I have an 18 year old daughter that I just sent off to college this month. I miss her dearly. All my daughter fears are now gone seeing her blossom into the woman she is. Being truthful with her and giving her the freedom to form her own opinions and feedback (not talk back) have allowed her to mature in ways that I can only see now that she is off on her own. Cherish those innocent moments, but appreciate the moments when it’s time for her to grow, you will know when to tell her the truth.

    • Oh gosh, college! Ack. I can’t think of it. I can only imagine what you’re going through. I’m sure you did a wonderful job preparing her, and now you get to look forward to more adult conversations and time together. :)

      I so so so cherish these years while they’re still young and innocent.

      Thank you so much for taking the time to read and comment.

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  28. I don’t have any children, but my I feel the same about my 10 year old sister. It’s horrible, I remember holding her in my arms when she was born (only 5lbs!) and now she’s 10. Unbelievable. My sister actually has lost a lot of those nice things you describe about your daughter, which is sad. :( I mentioned about Father Christmas bringing her presents and she said… “It’s not real Bethy”, and she’s started to get a bit of a temper on her and get hormonal.

    However, I’m looking forward for her to be old enough for me to take her out for fun girly days. So swings and roundabouts I guess.

    If it’s any consolation, I’m 24 and I still cuddle up to my mum and am a definite mummy’s girl. I’m sure your little girl will be the same. :)

    • Thanks, Beth. I agree that there are a lot of things to look forward to with the kids growing up. I’m a sentimental person, to a fault, so I have to just get used to the idea. Girls Days Out are lots of fun, aren’t they?

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